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		By: Andrew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://evolvify.com/training-for-the-unknown-and-the-unknowable-or-what-to-do-if-life-accidentally-happens-to-you#comment-1855&quot;&gt;Neal Matheson&lt;/a&gt;.

yeah, the philosophy of gym/crossfit training kind of feels like a band-aid solution to me. applied to the paleo diet framework, it might be something like continuing to eat garbage, then trying to supplement yourself to health. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://evolvify.com/training-for-the-unknown-and-the-unknowable-or-what-to-do-if-life-accidentally-happens-to-you#comment-1855">Neal Matheson</a>.</p>
<p>yeah, the philosophy of gym/crossfit training kind of feels like a band-aid solution to me. applied to the paleo diet framework, it might be something like continuing to eat garbage, then trying to supplement yourself to health. </p>
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		By: @DailySuicide		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 04:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This seems to be related: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2011/12/04/truth-knowledge-and-not-knowing-a-response-to-the-internet-ruins-everything/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2011/12/04/truth-...&lt;/a&gt;
(Experiencing verses models?)


&#034;...my sense of &#8220;phenomenological truth,&#8221; which takes truth as being the ways the world shows itself to us, rather than as an inner mental representation that accords with an outer reality. This is core to Heidegger and phenomenology. There are many ways in which we enable the world to show itself to us, including science, religion and art. Those ways have their own forms and rules (as per Wittgenstein). They are genuinely ways of knowing the world, not mere &#039;games.&#039; &#034;

&#034;So, yes, I am among the many who have abandoned the idea of Truth as an inner representation of an outer reality from which we are so essentially detached that some of the greatest philosophers in the West have had to come up with psychotic theories to explain how we can know our world at all. &#034;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems to be related: <a href="http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2011/12/04/truth-knowledge-and-not-knowing-a-response-to-the-internet-ruins-everything/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2011/12/04/truth-" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2011/12/04/truth-</a>&#8230;<br />
(Experiencing verses models?)</p>
<p>&quot;&#8230;my sense of &ldquo;phenomenological truth,&rdquo; which takes truth as being the ways the world shows itself to us, rather than as an inner mental representation that accords with an outer reality. This is core to Heidegger and phenomenology. There are many ways in which we enable the world to show itself to us, including science, religion and art. Those ways have their own forms and rules (as per Wittgenstein). They are genuinely ways of knowing the world, not mere &#039;games.&#039; &quot;</p>
<p>&quot;So, yes, I am among the many who have abandoned the idea of Truth as an inner representation of an outer reality from which we are so essentially detached that some of the greatest philosophers in the West have had to come up with psychotic theories to explain how we can know our world at all. &quot;</p>
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		By: David Csonka		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Csonka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://evolvify.com/training-for-the-unknown-and-the-unknowable-or-what-to-do-if-life-accidentally-happens-to-you#comment-1851&quot;&gt;Andrew&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m still waiting for my complimentary root beer float popsicle. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://evolvify.com/training-for-the-unknown-and-the-unknowable-or-what-to-do-if-life-accidentally-happens-to-you#comment-1851">Andrew</a>.</p>
<p>I&#039;m still waiting for my complimentary root beer float popsicle. </p>
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		By: Neal Matheson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neal Matheson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 06:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ This is an interesting post, from some stuff I have read it seems that  lot of what are posted as &#034;primal or paleo&#034; workouts don&#039;t really seem to bear any relation to he recorded realities of HG life.
 I did crossfit for a few years and quite liked it but found the culture of the site a bit wearisome. Crossfit seems tailor made for modern stressed people with little time and a &#034;goal-oriented achievement&#034; mindset, I doubt its evolutionarily congruent though.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> This is an interesting post, from some stuff I have read it seems that  lot of what are posted as &quot;primal or paleo&quot; workouts don&#039;t really seem to bear any relation to he recorded realities of HG life.<br />
 I did crossfit for a few years and quite liked it but found the culture of the site a bit wearisome. Crossfit seems tailor made for modern stressed people with little time and a &quot;goal-oriented achievement&quot; mindset, I doubt its evolutionarily congruent though.</p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 03:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://evolvify.com/training-for-the-unknown-and-the-unknowable-or-what-to-do-if-life-accidentally-happens-to-you#comment-1846&quot;&gt;Victoria&lt;/a&gt;.

What!? If it&#039;s just a combination of evolvify and elite sarcasm, where did the profound moral lesson come from?  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://evolvify.com/training-for-the-unknown-and-the-unknowable-or-what-to-do-if-life-accidentally-happens-to-you#comment-1846">Victoria</a>.</p>
<p>What!? If it&#8217;s just a combination of evolvify and elite sarcasm, where did the profound moral lesson come from?  </p>
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		By: Victoria		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victoria]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 01:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://evolvify.com/training-for-the-unknown-and-the-unknowable-or-what-to-do-if-life-accidentally-happens-to-you#comment-1852&quot;&gt;Andrew&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t know- it helps to have a good deadlift... about a month ago I helped roll a fallen horse off a trapped rider.  Not sure how many of the bystanders could have deadlifted half a horse in that situation! ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://evolvify.com/training-for-the-unknown-and-the-unknowable-or-what-to-do-if-life-accidentally-happens-to-you#comment-1852">Andrew</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#039;t know- it helps to have a good deadlift&#8230; about a month ago I helped roll a fallen horse off a trapped rider.  Not sure how many of the bystanders could have deadlifted half a horse in that situation! </p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 23:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://evolvify.com/training-for-the-unknown-and-the-unknowable-or-what-to-do-if-life-accidentally-happens-to-you#comment-1848&quot;&gt;The Primal Parent&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh geez... Yeah... I read that post a while ago; it&#039;s intense even in written form. And yes... you make a good point -- when real shit goes down, overhead squat technique and deadlift max tends to be meaningless.

&#034;&lt;i&gt;He said fuck it and moved to China.&lt;/i&gt;&#034;
This  nicely demonstrates the human &#034;frontier&#034; impulse I&#039;ve written about elsewhere. In the face of overwhelming state coercion, we don&#039;t have many real options left. This is one reason I&#039;m wary of the increase in border security that seems to be sweeping the globe. What&#039;s popularized as attempts to keep foreigners out also has the effect of keeping people in. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://evolvify.com/training-for-the-unknown-and-the-unknowable-or-what-to-do-if-life-accidentally-happens-to-you#comment-1848">The Primal Parent</a>.</p>
<p>Oh geez&#8230; Yeah&#8230; I read that post a while ago; it&#039;s intense even in written form. And yes&#8230; you make a good point &#8212; when real shit goes down, overhead squat technique and deadlift max tends to be meaningless.</p>
<p>&quot;<i>He said fuck it and moved to China.</i>&quot;<br />
This  nicely demonstrates the human &quot;frontier&quot; impulse I&#039;ve written about elsewhere. In the face of overwhelming state coercion, we don&#039;t have many real options left. This is one reason I&#039;m wary of the increase in border security that seems to be sweeping the globe. What&#039;s popularized as attempts to keep foreigners out also has the effect of keeping people in. </p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 23:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://evolvify.com/training-for-the-unknown-and-the-unknowable-or-what-to-do-if-life-accidentally-happens-to-you#comment-1850&quot;&gt;David Csonka&lt;/a&gt;.

I was just talking to somebody about how moderns think hunter-gatherer life is all scary, and choosing agriculture was somehow a no-brainer leading to boundless joy and root beer float popsicles from here to the horizon . Obviously, these people have never farmed... especially prior to petroleum driven tractors and the rest of factory farming technology.

Carrying around buckets of dirt... Welcome to the agrarian dream! :) ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://evolvify.com/training-for-the-unknown-and-the-unknowable-or-what-to-do-if-life-accidentally-happens-to-you#comment-1850">David Csonka</a>.</p>
<p>I was just talking to somebody about how moderns think hunter-gatherer life is all scary, and choosing agriculture was somehow a no-brainer leading to boundless joy and root beer float popsicles from here to the horizon . Obviously, these people have never farmed&#8230; especially prior to petroleum driven tractors and the rest of factory farming technology.</p>
<p>Carrying around buckets of dirt&#8230; Welcome to the agrarian dream! 🙂 </p>
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		By: David Csonka		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Csonka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Funny thing about your joke on the farmer&#039;s walks. I&#039;ve been doggedly trying to grow plants on my porch during this hellish Colorado Fall (feels like Winter already). I have some leafy greens growing in buckets, etc. I can move the buckets into my outdoors closet by the water heater/HVAC unit to keep them warm on the nights that freeze, which basically means every other night.

The only real problem I have, is that the position of my balcony faces to the east, which gives my plants some good sunlight in the morning, but it&#039;s only about 3 hours, max. My solution is to carry my bucketed plants downstairs, outside, and place them behind my car in the parking lot in a place where they can get full sunlight (such that it is during a Colorado winter) for the whole day.

This might seem like a simple chore except for the fact that each 5 gallon bucket, loaded down with rocks, soil, plant, and moisture weighs between 60-75 pounds. And, I have four of them.

So yeah, it&#039;s a pretty awesome farmers walk, and it&#039;s fairly legitimate because it involves farming/gardening, right? LOL ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing about your joke on the farmer&#039;s walks. I&#039;ve been doggedly trying to grow plants on my porch during this hellish Colorado Fall (feels like Winter already). I have some leafy greens growing in buckets, etc. I can move the buckets into my outdoors closet by the water heater/HVAC unit to keep them warm on the nights that freeze, which basically means every other night.</p>
<p>The only real problem I have, is that the position of my balcony faces to the east, which gives my plants some good sunlight in the morning, but it&#039;s only about 3 hours, max. My solution is to carry my bucketed plants downstairs, outside, and place them behind my car in the parking lot in a place where they can get full sunlight (such that it is during a Colorado winter) for the whole day.</p>
<p>This might seem like a simple chore except for the fact that each 5 gallon bucket, loaded down with rocks, soil, plant, and moisture weighs between 60-75 pounds. And, I have four of them.</p>
<p>So yeah, it&#039;s a pretty awesome farmers walk, and it&#039;s fairly legitimate because it involves farming/gardening, right? LOL </p>
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		By: tyler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[like Jonsi says:  go do ]]></description>
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